Wednesday, August 27, 2008

Firefighters for 9/11 Truth: Not For Firefighters, Not For Truth

After sending out a message about our upcoming debate in Toronto I got the following “petition” in my inbox.

Please sign this and send it out to as many as you can k[sic]!

::Very Important Petition from Firefighters::

To: US Congress

Please Take Notice That:

On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Firefighters for 9-11 Truth and affiliates are deeply troubled with the “official” story concerning 9/11 and the way the rescue workers from Ground Zero are being “forgotten.”

We believe there is overwhelming evidence of obstruction of justice, and destruction of evidence voiced even by numerous 9/11 Commissioners themselves […even though there was only one “Commissioner”]. Senator Cleland resigned from the Commission stating, “This investigation is now compromised.”

NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) 921, which is the National Standard for Fire and Explosion Investigations, very clearly indicates in numerous sections that the possibility of explosives should have been thoroughly investigated. Specifically in NFPA 921 18.3.2 "High Order Damage"- "High-order damage is characterized by shattering of the structure, producing small, pulverized debris. Walls, roofs, and structural members are splintered or shattered, with the building completely demolished. Debris is thrown great distances, possibly hundreds of feet. High-order damage is the result of rapid rates of pressure rise." World Trade Center’s 1, 2, and 7 all clearly met this definition; therefore they should have been thoroughly investigated and analyzed for explosives. Specifically, the use of "exotic accelerants" should have been investigated. In NFPA 921 19.2.4 -“Exotic Accelerants,” three indicators were clearly met that should have led to a thorough investigation in to the possible use of “exotic accelerants,” specifically as stated in the guideline, “Thermite [sic] mixtures.”

So, why was the possibility of explosives, controlled demolition, or the use of "exotic accelerants" not thoroughly investigated, or even mentioned in the 9-11 Commission Report? [Because it was mentioned in the NIST report, probably]

We, the undersigned, demand the following:

1) A truly independent investigation with Subpoena and Contempt Powers to uncover the complete truth of the events related to 9/11/2001 – specifically the collapse of WTC Tower 7 and the possibility of explosive demolition.
2) The investigation to follow the National Standards so clearly outlined in the National Fire Protection Association guidelines, specifically, NFPA 921 to include thorough analysis of the steel for the presence of "exotic accelerants."
3) Congress to honor the promises made to the rescue workers of 9/11 by passing the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2008.
4) Prosecution of all individuals willfully involved in the planning, and execution of the murders committed on September 11, 2001.
5) Prosecution of all individuals willfully involved in the Obstruction of Justice and Destruction of Evidence surrounding the events of September 11, 2001.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

I responded to the person who sent me this message with the following:

I'm not sure how you could be of the belief that the 9/11 Commission wasn't "independent" - the vast majority of the people who assembled that report and the NIST reports were independently employed professionals from the public, private, and academic sectors. Several thousand people on the ground who had no incentive to lie on behalf of various figures in "the government" compiled the reports in question.

236 pieces of steel were all analyzed and tested for those same "exotic accelerants" you're talking about. It's difficult to see the sense in arguing for the passage of the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2008 when there hasn't even been debate on it in the House yet. It's also somewhat presumptive of you to pass around a pledge implying that Congress is not going to pass it.

For the people being "punished" for perpetrating the 9/11 attacks, I would recommend picking up a newspaper. Oh, also, I'm not a firefighter, so don't ask me to sign a pledge for "Firefighters for 9-11 Truth." Please refrain from this sort of dishonesty in the future; thanks.

To which she intelligently replied (get ready for headache):

LOL[,] you speak of something you no [sic] nothing about. [Y]our words are from a true nieve [sic] person. First of all..[.]you dont [sic] have to be a firefighter to sign this pledge...second, i didn’t [sic] send this directly to you [yes, she did]...third, the problem with the world today is they believe too much of what the newspaper says...[I] go right to the source...as [I] can tell, you dont [sic] by the way you speak.

Have a good day.


Of course, I never cited a “newspaper” to “believe” in the first place, but that’s beside the point. I didn’t really debate with her further except to let her know she was embarrassing herself, to which she eventually ended up saying:

LOL buddy..[.]give it a rest...it[‘]s so typical from people like you to twist words around. either way..[.]you contacted me first [untrue, though I did invite all the members of our awesome Facebook group to the debate]. and second..[I] never said it had nothing to do with firefighters...[I] said anyone can sign this petition..it[‘]s not just for firefighters.


Just to be clear, the petition she sent me read, “the undersigned Firefighters for 9-11 Truth and affiliates.”. Now, clearly I am not a firefighter, and I’m CLEARLY not a Truther, and as I don’t work for a support or advocacy organization that operates on behalf of firefighters (or the Truther ones, anyway) it would be disingenuous and, indeed, false, for me to claim that I am in any meaningful sense an “affiliate” of them – and I’m absolutely not an “affiliate” of “Firefighters for 9-11 Truth.” It also said that the petition is “from Firefighters,” which is also a lie – the person who sent this to me is a young woman who looks like she hasn’t done a day of hard work in her life. Of course, she has blocked my Facebook profile following her final statement, so I can't confirm that.

This person says that even if you aren’t who the pledge indicates you should be in order to sign this petition, you can sign it anyway. It’s from Firefighters For 9-11 Truth. If you aren’t into being lied to, and if you think committing fraud in the name of firefighters who you neither speak for nor represent, do us a favor and let them know.

3 comments:

Ray said...

Nobody seems to give a shit about your blog. You are a dumb ass. Get a friggn' life.

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